Everyone Needs to watch the movie in my profile

[Kale6641]

[Alexander]

Yeah. I agree. I saw it, and I do not regret it. A true film classic.

[Kale6641]

lol. I made better ones. Ones with blaster shots and stuff. So, if you're going to be online for a few hours i can send them to you through AIm

[papajewski]

Very good point!
If tech like this will ever become a reality, consider the consequences of the fact that it will only be accessible for the filthy rich:
Dictators will rule for ages, Bill Gates will slap us around with windows forever, oil will remain the most depended on fuel even when there's just 10 barrels left of it.
In human history so far, the few rich and powerful did a very good job f*cking up this world, while they had only a few decades of influence.
Imagine them living far, far longer...
Sure, for each leech that crumbles up and dies another one steps up, but the power and control one could achieve if they had multiple lifespans to manifest themselves even further in their dominant position...
Just one of those bastards being kept alive for a 80 years more on each continent and this world will not have any life on it when the clock strikes 2200 a.d.I've read through many of the topics here and decided that I am concerned with precisely the same thing most of you seem to be. I realize that humanity has been seeking immortality since it could conceptualize death, I realize that any scientific breakthrough takes time and that this is probably the big momma of them all, I realize that you are discussing far-reaching implications while keeping a close watch on any upcoming developments, I do realize all of that. But I feel that I must inject a bit of kick-in-the-pants here. A call to arms perhaps, or at least a rush to action. Seriously, this is to any doctors, researchers, anyone like that. people who want to be activists, anyone? what is seriously being done about this, right now? I am sure that someone out there could, at this very minute, be trying to research ways of applying all that we've learned about the ways and reasons cells age, and all that we could learn, to actually trying to cure aging. I'm 18 right now, and I desperately do not want to die. Please, I want to know, what could be done within the next 50-odd years, what is being done right now? Something should be. I would appreciate anyone letting me know if they agree or disagree. Well, I did just that and the results did look....promising. Ok, so, you are just getting started in this career, that's also good. Is this particular problem among those you plan to try to tackle, and do you know of others in your field who are also going to be trying to solve this/ you would encourage to try to get on it? Let me ask you flat-out, and not to sound selfish, but: do you think that whatever you're doing now will be done in time to save someone who was 18 in 2005 (i.e right now) from getting old and ultimately dying of some age-related disease? I realize it's just an opinion, but I'm asking what you think: yes or no? Well, you've given some interesting things to think about, to be sure. I'm not sure that I agree with all of them, but that's certainly ok. It's natural for people to doubt things until they actually come into being, the old "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude. I do sometimes talk to people about the idea, but I disagree that that's the most critical aspect. I think the most critical aspect is, in fact, the hard engineering work that needs to be done. I look at it kind of like spaceflight- it wasn't very long from Kitty Hawk to the moon, as is often famously stated. The basic, underlying principles are starting to be understood, with the decoding of the genome and all that, there's still some work to be done in that department, I could be wrong but I think that is mostly finished, the understanding of basically what causes aging on a general level. Now what they need to do is to figure out how to manipulate that, really dig deep into the specifics of precisely how the machinery works so they can change it, then from there it will be just fine-tuning. I don't know exactly how long that will take, obviously, but I should remind myself that when people who are 50 or 60 now were 18, the average lifespan was at least a little shorter, so young people now might have even a little longer than they think, and I do know about escape velocity and all that, I read about de Grey in Popular Science, and have been interested in immortality for much longer. I just hope that someone really gets to work on it NOW as opposed to later. It's like, for all the people trying to cure cancer for all this time, it's still not done yet. I bet it could be, though. I feel like I would like to give all of this a try, and see what I personally might be able to accomplish. Computers could have been invented a thousand years ago, the laws of physics haven't changed, it would have been possible. All it takes to create something new, in technological terms, is the knowledge of how the relevant properties function, and that doesn't necessarily have to happen on a timescale, it happens when someone figures it out, but in order for that to happen, someone has to be trying. The first big step I'd like to see, of course is, in this case, a mouse that doesn't just live exceptionally longer than the average for it's species (even 4 or 5 times longer) or delay old age for a long time, but one for whom it seems not to be coming at all, a basic change in biology that lets it live maybe 50, 100, or more times it's species' natural lifespan.
Nothing really new here people. Humans have been put in "near death" states for years, hooked up to life support and have come back to "life"....so to speak.

Many have been determined "clinically dead" for several minutes, and brought back to life as well. Those who have come back to life, generally give accounts of "supernatural" visions regarding heaven and hell, so if anything...I believe these "near death" experiences would more than likely validate the possibility of life after death, rather than disprove it. Some say that chemical reactions in the brain are responsible for these "near death" visions..however..there really is nothing substantive out their to prove that theory.

Back on topic. I believe the real question science is trying to answer is how long can someone remain in a "near death" state, before completely dying?

My opinion...Unless someone is able to bring a completely dead body back to life...(ie bodies that have been in the mortuary/grave for a couple of days and are decomposing)

there isn't any real discovery here...I've seen a few NDE and out of body experinces that are pretty hard to explain.I know one hostpital puts words above their beds just to see if people claiming out of body experinces will see the word.To this day no one that has had an out of body experince has seen this wordsl.However,one woman had the out of body experince while in surgey and told the story of the whole operation from out of her body.
I think with NDE we need to find out how the phenomonon (? spell check!) effects people world wide.If people in China are seeing Jesus and the devil or at least seeing something close to what most the western world sees,their might be something to it.However,if their seeing religous images from their own culture it might a cultural thing.
I’ve come to a conclusion.
I don’t think we’re going to make it.

As a society, anyway. I think we’re doomed.

I had the naivety in my youth to believe that there was a chance that we could turn around, that the good people would stand up and take charge.

What I now realize, as I watch the world, as I study it, is that there are only a few hundred of us, and we don’t have any money. Once we get the money, we become one of them.

We live in the United States, the greatest modern democracy of our time. The pinnacle of civilization and the hope of the world.

We murder.

We are responsible for genocides.

We censor.

We oppress.

We horde our resources.

We are intolerant.

Our women are self-aggrandizing power hungry money obsessed whores, our men are penis size obsessed, always right, drunken ritual slobs, and the children are as selfish and worthless as they get.

And we’re the best humanity has to offer.

So yeah. I’ve come to the conclusion, the rationale, the logic that we’re not going to make it.

We can call the peak, if there ever was a peak, the Civil War, the end of slavery. But even then, we were starting wars in foreign countries for territories.

Hell, in terms of the freedom of speech, we may be in the best time yet. But there are still limitations, and there always will be.

As a society, we have been felled by our own apathy. I don’t have to speculate on the peak when I know that as a man, as men, we feel like we have no purpose, no power, no point, no utopian future and no artistic endeavor.

We have failed.

Society is a ruined and lost experiment. The only thing left to do is chronicle its failures.

This doesn’t require controversy. Controversy is an arbitrary attempt to shock people into a point of view. I’m past that now. There’s no need, because no one will listen and act to controversy.

Instead, I’ll just watch, and point at the fall and failings of society, that maybe at some time in the distant future when there actually IS hope for an idealist someone will say, “Hey, at least someone knew.”

To that end, the last controversy has passed us.

Welcome to Chronicling the Fall.

[Kale6641]

Loser.

[Alexander]

Where have I read that spiel before???

[Kale6641]

Everywhere that i post

[Alexander]

It was very interesting the first time around, but now it is downright pathetic. Kinda shrinks on ya.